The History of Childwall Woods and Fields

                                                            Updated 19/8/20

Childwall Woods has remained virtually unchanged since they were planted in the 1700s, however, through the years their name has changed as have their owners. The woods were originally the grounds of Childwall Hall the seat of a wealthy landowner and were known as The Grounds. They extended from Childwall Abbey Road to The Black Woods, and from Countisbury Drive to Woolton Rd.  The owners of the hall owned vast amounts of land and planted much of it as woodlands, some of it still existing today as Childwall Woods.

The area from Childwall Lane up to Childwall Woods is known today as Childwall Fields. A hundred years ago this area was known as Childwall Park, a name that has gone from the fields but lives on in Childwall Park Road, nearby. Childwall Park was different in every way from Childwall Fields, its transformation taking decades and still continuing today.

 

 Childwall Hall and its grounds

There has always been some kind of Manor House associated with Childwall going back to the 1600s and it has had a long list of owners. It is recorded that the Earl of Derby owned the manor known as Childwall in 1614 but during the Civil War, his lands were taken by parliament.  The Earl managed to regain ownership years later only to sell some of them on to raise funds to clear his debts.  Documents show that Childwall Manor, occupied at the time by Isabel Houghton was in August 1657, sold or rather mortgaged to Dame Elizabeth Finch and Edward Bagnell. It seems that having a mortgage and cohabiting is not a modern phenomenon after all.

Elizabeth and Edward did not own the manor for long.  On 14 October 1658, it was again sold for £4,700 to brothers Peter and Isaac Legay, who are described as Merchants of London. The following year Peter relinquished his right to the manor and Isaac Legay became the sole owner.

Isaac Legay remained the owner until his death in 1690 when the lands and the house went to his son Samuel Legay who himself died ten years later in 1690, leaving the land and the house to his 2 sisters Hannah Hollis and Martha Solly. Having no use for the manor and land themselves they sold them on in 1718 to Isaac Greene of Prescot, a wealthy attorney practising in Liverpool.

Isaac Greene married Mary Aspinall, daughter and heir of Edward Aspinall of Hale, and thus he became Lord of Hale as well as of the manors of Childwall, Wavertree, Much and Little Woolton, and West Derby.

The first Childwall Hall owned by Isaac and Mary Greene in 1718

Isaac had 3 daughters who inherited his wealth on his death in 1749, Childwall hall and grounds going to Mary, the youngest of the three. Mary married Bamber, son of Sir Crisp Gascoyne (Gascoigne) in 1756 and went on to have a son and heir also named Bamber.

Bamber Gascoyne Jnr took a career in politics and was a member of Parliament for Liverpool (1780-96). He decided the hall was not to his liking and demolished it to build a new castellated hall to the design of the popular architect John Nash, in 1780. It looked very much like a medieval castle and was given the nickname of the Abbey by locals.

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The new Childwall Hall was built from the local Sandstone and no expense was spared. Bamber had a love of books and a huge library was built, along with a billiard room and an oak Gothic Sarcophagus took pride of place amongst the ornate style of furnishing. The grounds around the hall were planted a century before but now were turned into ‘the grounds’ with woodland walks, a folly and a carriageway constructed to impress the many visitors entertained there.

A hall so grand with a carriageway needed a gatehouse and a castellated lodge was built by the main gates where visitors would enter. That stands today as a private residence on Childwall Abbey Road but cannot disguise its origins. Another lodge was built on the path from the hall to Woolton Road and visitors on foot would have had to walk through its grand archway. It no longer stands.

Bamber died in 1821 and his only child, a daughter Mary Francis inherited the Hall and grounds. Mary married the Second Marquis of Salisbury soon afterwards and moved away from Childwall Hall.

 

 

 

 

This grand old hall when used as a residence

 

Photographs donated to FCWF by Mr Ray Lowe

 

 

 

The hall was let to many tenants, one of them the shipping owner Sir Thomas Brocklebank of the Cunard-Brocklebank shipping line and later his son Ralph Brocklebank.

Another tenant was the wealthy importer Mr. Hugh Schintz and his wife, who used the stables as garages for their many cars.

 

Childwall Hall in 1932 when it was the home of Childwall Golf Club. Shown with the kind permission of Rob Brent

 

 

Childwall Golf Club was another tenant of Childwall Hall.

This aerial photograph from 1932 shows the hall in its full glory with its huge stable block behind. Notice the bunkers on the fields and the cars around the entrance belonging to the golfers that day. If you look carefully you will see 2 white pergolas or maybe a bandstand in the bottom left-hand corner of the picture.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Hall became empty in 1938 when its final tenants Childwall Golf Club moved out. They had rented the hall from 1922 to 1938 when they moved to their present site in Gateacre, leaving the hall empty.

Liverpool Corporation bought 50 acres of its parkland from the owner for £10,000 in 1939 and was given the hall and 4.5 acres as a gift. It was planned that the house would be used as a college, however, it was not a good design for a college and when it was found to be riddled with dry rot in 1949 it was demolished.

A college was later built on its site and the woodlands fenced off from the college in 1960. It was then open to residents and 6 years later in 1966, the woods were opened to the public. Childwall Woods was born.

Below is an article from the Liverpool Echo in 1967 when a commemorative tree was planted to mark the opening of the woods to the public. The article states that Lord Cranborne, the grandson of the Marquis of Salisbury, the original owners, was there at the opening.

It is very interesting to read that the tree was given to the Liverpool corporation by Mr George Mellor, who was the Chairman of the Childwall Woods Preservation Society, and watching was the Vice-Chairman Mr F Howard Andrews. This certainly sounds like a predecessor of Friends of Childwall Woods and Fields. 

From Left to Right. F.Howard Andrews Vice Chairman of Childwall Woods Preservation Society, Mr James Worthington Park and Gardens Dept, Mr Mellor, Chairman of Childwall Woods Preservation Society, and Mr John Noble, Superintendent of the Parks and Gardens Department.

The tree today, June 2019

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The college was later sold on to Lime Pictures who are the owners today. The woods and Fields are still owned by Liverpool Council but this 39-acre site is now part of the Mersey Forest and managed in partnership with, Lancashire Wildlife Trust, Liverpool City Council and Friends of Childwall Woods and Fields.

 

Hidden History

Although the Hall has gone, it has left behind many reminders of the important role it played in shaping this beautiful Local Nature Reserve (LNR) we now call Childwall Woods and Fields.

 

As you enter Childwall Woods from Childwall Abbey Road main gate you will see the remains of the ‘moat’ ‘ravine’ or ‘carriageway’ as it is sometimes called.

The Carriageway in Autumn

 

 

 

 

 

This is the long carriageway that was cut to take the horse-drawn carriages of the day, through the grounds to the Hall.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The carriageway was cut deep into the Bunter Sandstone and this has been identified as a regionally important geological site (RIGS) exposing the layers of sandstone during the excavation. The carriageway is said to also have a sandstone base but that has been covered by leaves and other forest debris through the years since it became abandoned.

 

 

 

 

The carriageway is an interesting place to walk but strong shoes or wellies are recommended due to the decades of leafmold that line the sandstone floor.

It curves round to the site where the Hall used to stand, now the home of Lime Pictures.

 

 

 

Hidden in the trees, reminders of the old building. Here is the corner of the family Chapel now covered by ivy hiding the arched door and sets of steps to who knows where. Well worth a look around as it has many secrets still to be uncovered if you have the time.

 

The stables would have been just behind this.

 

 

 

 

The stable block of the old hall is still quite visible inside the campus of Lime Pictures, who kindly allowed this door to the stables to be photographed for our website. Not visible in the woods but just the other side of the fence in our neighbours yard.

 

 

 

Echos of the grandeur of the stable block can be found in the circular windows that remain on the site, tiled at a time when the stables became a garage and now netted due to their fragile condition.

Again thanks to Lime Pictures for letting us use these images from their campus

 

 

 

Next to the carriageway is a sunken area with steps down, opening up to expose a large sandstone outcrop known locally as ‘Monkey Island’.

Many stately homes have a Folly perched up high to show their wealth. In the grounds of Childwall Hall, the Folly is cut deep into the rock creating a sunken garden used by the residents of the hall in its glory days.

A wide set of steps to show its importance.

 

 

 

Throughout the north-west part of the woods, there are glimpses of sandstone walls that were once associated with the hall and its outbuildings.  This one is at right angles to Countisbury Drive.

 

 

 

Below are the remains of a building adjacent to the wall. The burial place for the beloved animals that had once lived on the estate, and it is thought it was created to honour the beloved horses who died in a fire in the stables and were buried here, along with the dogs from the hall. A suitable burial place for the animals belonging to the family. 

If you look carefully on the ground and underneath the leaf litter you can find a metal relic of a gate. No-one can explain what it is but it shows us there was something across the path in the past. A gate maybe?

 

 

 

 

This is a copy of an original watercolour by A. Moscrop depicting another gatehouse different to the one on Childwall Abbey Road but still reflecting the castle-like design of the Hall.  This was kindly donated to FCWF by Ray Lowe whose father William ‘Billy’ Lowe was born in this lodge when his grandfather worked in the stables.

The OS map for 1904 shows a building with the path going through it near to the Woolton Road entrance to the woods. There are no photographs of that building but it is a good contender for the missing gatehouse with the path going through the middle of the building.

 

 

The woods themselves owe their diversity and beauty to the planting that went on by the original owners of the hall.  Some of the specimens originally planted are now huge mature trees and bushes, homes for bats and woodpeckers amongst many other creatures great and small.

 

 

 

 

These beautiful old Beech trees standing in a row are close to the site of the old Hall and this wonderful gnarled specimen (below) is at the end of the carriageway and was certainly around to witness the comings and goings of the Gascoyne family.

           

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Childwall Fields

The area that we know as Childwall Fields was once known as Childwall Park and was a gentle grassy slope up from Childwall Lane to the border of Childwall Woods, looking very different to the Childwall Fields that we know today. Its original entrance used to be on Childwall Lane but was boarded up many years ago and that led on to the gradual slope which had just a few small trees and bushes, nothing like the fields and woods we see today.

The lower northern corner of the fields, next to Childwall Lane, used to be the site of the village cross and is clearly shown on the 1904 map, but these days the cross stands proudly on Childwall Lane, overlooking the pedestrian loop of Crossways.

Childwall Park became Childwall Golf Club in 1922 when the hall was rented by Childwall Golf Club and the bunkers bear witness to this on the aerial photo above.

Throughout World War 2 the land we know as the fields was used to grow vegetables and essential food crops which were in short supply. After the war had ended the fields changed again but now to pasture for sheep, still the gentle slope up to the woods.

In the 1960s the slope disappeared under hundreds of tons of garbage when the area was used as a huge landfill site which continued into the 1970s. Tipping eventually stopped and after burning off as much as possible the site was allowed to settle and the 3 fields we see today were created. The fields were capped with clay and then covered with a layer of soil before being given back to nature, and an amazing variety of grasses, wildflowers, bushes and trees now cover this site, disguising what lies beneath.

 

In the 1980s the Fields became the focus of research done by PhD students from Liverpool University who took on the challenge of planting a variety of trees to see which species would grow best if any, on a former landfill site and the mixed plantation on the SE part of the lower field was created.

 

 

Childwall Fields was one of 12 former landfill sites in the region that was planted for research purposes and 30 years later has proven to be one of the best. The whole area has now matured into the perfect habitat for a variety of animals, birds, flora and fauna (see the Ecology page) including a wonderful asset to the community.

The 3 fields are quite different in character with the top field being the most friendly for walkers and offering a spectacular view across Lancashire.

 

Childwall Woods and Fields has grown into a treasured amenity that its original creators could never have imagined it would become. This beautiful Local Nature Reserve that was once the grounds of a stately home has been taken back by nature giving us a wonderful opportunity to glimpse the beauty of the natural countryside.  It is managed yet it is wild, is in the city yet in the countryside, is the same as it was but is everchanging and must be preserved for generations to come.

 

Artifacts Found on the site

Photos are shown with the kind permission of Pete, who found all of these items on the site using a metal detector.

 

The handle is engraved with the number of the serviceman who owned it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

A Cheshire Regiment shoulder badge old shotgun and musket shells, part of an old whistle and a 1942 bullet casing with the primer still in.

Old buttons, some military. Many are Birmingham, Liverpool and London made. The Royal Crest on one shows it to be a pre-WW2 issue button.

 

 

More of Pete’s finds to come as they are unearthed.

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Author: B Cameron on behalf of Friends of Childwall Woods and Fields

 

Sources:

City of Liverpool Consultation Portal –

http://consult.liverpool.gov.uk/portal/slp_jan_2018/slp_jan_2018?pointId=s1497419586197#section-s1497419586197

 

Liverpool Echo 1957 – https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52830386_834063533605516_8010597461443739648_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=d27d9174fa7b23655290c5894ea67927&oe=5D0DD98A

 

Liverpool museum  – https://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/mol/archaeology/historic-characterisation-project/Liverpool-Part-6.pdf

 

Pye, K. (2011). Discover Liverpool. Liverpool: Trinity Mirror Media, cited in Hugh Harris: Childwall Hall and Woods, SJ4188 – a timeline – https://activenaturalist.org.uk/mbb/node/232https://activenaturalist.org.uk/mbb/node/232

 

RSPB give Nature a home

https://ww2.rspb.org.uk/groups/Liverpool/places/341500/#1EARQu6gyilVcvjI.99

 

The Naturalists’ Notebook. The blog of the Merseyside Naturalists’ Association

http://naturalistsnotebook.mnapage.info/2018/06/04/childwall-woods-and-fields-3rd-june-2018/

Wild, Jonathan. The History of Childwall – http://www.childwall.info/take-the-tour/4576504282

 

Authors own photographs unless credited differently.

 

 

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